Atlas City Project

I was thinking of a few problems with our tourism section. Maybe people will think of solutions, maybe more problems, but here is where it will go.

1. One big issue I have has to do with our city construction stages. This is still up for debate, but the way I see it is a few residential buildings and agriculture first so people can actually move in and start maintenance and running operations (crops do take time to stabalize and would need to be done to some degree before too many people move in). During this stage, the city will be small and not about to deal with tourism, nor have all of the buildings completed.

2. Second, is how we will deal with sections they can and can't go to. I believe in the past we said we could give each visitor a limited pass that only allows them to access public areas (nothing that can harm the city). Are we still doing this? Is it the same for personal visitors as hotel visitors?

3. I can't for the life of me remember right now. I'll get back to you guys. I know I had a few more.

well, I feel question 2 applies to more than just tourists. What about keeping citizens out of dangerous or important areas?

Perhaps a fingerprint door system might be what we are looking for.

This takes us back to zones.

Obviously you want to keep security of each major zone independent of the other zones and determine access based on the purposes and uses of each zone.

Some zones should be basic day pass zones where anybody who makes it through the main gate can go. Other zones should be more private, so that you have to rent a room with us to go there or pay an entrance fee, or, maybe even be accompanied by a resident tour guide.

Other zones are rather private and maybe not so much even for guided tours.

The first step is to determine what the zones are, then the level of security which will be put in place per zone.

this is one issue which is brought up by my thread about zones.

i dont know if we want to consider everything as "zones"

alot of our functionality will fit within a specific building per function.

however, you could use zones as a way to determine security level however.

for example: this building is zone 5 (can only be accessed by authorized personnel) or whatever.

this is how its done. I don't know what you guys have for experience, but the first step in design is to plot the zones.

There are numerous reasons for this...

what it comes down to is that you move from a macro map which is vague and general down into more specifics.

You can go bottom up also, one building or garden plot at a time, but that ends up looking sloppy when you just toss it all together.

There are many ways to layout zoning for sites. Here are some ideas or food for thought.

The mathematical logic for optimising it is pretty vague and in reality it comes down to personal preference. Some of the constraints could be:

1. Exposure to sunlight for energy
2. Private space versus shared pubic space. This si a key part i believe.
3. Access and egress.For example how far into the city you want cars to be able to go.
- I like it when they cant go in except for deliveries.
- Also the idea of owning a car is plan dumb. Instead a shared car systems works well and so they would be parked in a carp park.
4. Food growing, i believe, should be interspersed with the living and work areas.
- i see no reason why it cant be thought of as a form of park and recreation area in many ways.
- I think the human condition hates the highly ordered an regimented design.
- so combined the farming and permaculture with the living area can be quite nice.

Security for visitor access is pretty independent of the site layout i feel. Mainly because security is pretty open statement. ecurity for what ?

i agree that humans have a tendency to be awed by nature, but at the same time futuristic design. That is what I believe the venus project has captured so well by bringing these 2 ideas together, and I feel that Atlas can have success by doing this as well.