Atlas City Project

This I have successfully tried years ago. These things should be taken into consideration when implementing security.



Mythbusters beat the security systems

the problem with "modern" keys is that they are too small and too simple.

Strangely enough, those "old fashioned" keys that are three times as big are also a hundred times more secure.

A buddy of mine in junior high school had a high tech lock pick key which had
30 or so miniature springs and a tiny little coil and then a release mechanism which was like pulling a toothpick out of the key.

You'd spin the coil to pull the teeth down, and then pull the toothpick to release them.

It worked on almost every door and car.

What it didn't work on was 1850 locks on some of those very old houses.

The secret to a real modern key would be to crossbreed the concept of the 1900s key with the much larger 1700s key, making significantly larger and far more complicated keys.

By adding magnetic strips, you could have a two part security mechanism, first reading the key data, and then allowing a mechanical turn key mechanism.

honestly i dont know why we dont do fingerprint, eye scan, voice kind of security, or at least key cards

all of those could be replicated by a fly by camera masquerading as a bird.

they are less safe than a solid entry object like a solid key.

most key cards can be read at over 200 meters with the right equipment.

Or programmed through a wall with the right equipment.


I like the idea a lot better where the key card is 30 nano key cards where the teeth of the key and the locks internals meet.

IE; my idea is a solid key with a magnetic, key card like strip.

Insulating the strip so it can't be read from 100-200 meters away.

Some nice pictures here of locks:

ericschmiedl.com/locks/

Two lock types I've yet to be able to pick myself and worked well in practice are:

Magnetic keylocks.

www.hillscomponents.com/product.asp?V1=&V2=&V3=&V4=&V5=73898570&V6=0&V7=&PROD=531-0245

Mechanical combination locks.

www.archiexpo.com/prod/codelocks/mechanical-combination-door-lock-for-light-use-11074-26216.html

I would also go for high CCTV coverage as well and plenty of security guards.


I prefer surface mounted locks as most doors fail around the lock area if the lock is internal, plus hinges are also a weak point. (Never have external hinges..)


I remember one solution I used to make it hard to pick a lock was to have the keyhole very deep. (I had the key extended to around 15cm long)

I just don't like eye scan and fingerprints because that requires a database of our information that could be hacked. Key cards seem more convenient and more difficult to get passed then tumbler locks (normal door, padlock types). We could simply change to more complex locks, but I like the convenience of magnetic key cards with different codes for security. That way if something happens we will know which card was used to enter that area.

I was a locksmith before I became an electrician and the saying was "Locks are only to keep the honest man, honest."

I can get into nearly any car within 5 seconds of approaching it and into every house within 2 minutes depending on the age of the lock. Older locks are rusty and the pins don't move easily.

Transitional security doesn't have to be crazy it just has to be better than the outside world. Protected keycards are probably the cheapest and easiest solution.

Ultimately you will never keep an intruder out who REALLY wants to get in. You should focus on things you can change, like how people think and feel about eachother. Promote neighborly gathering and open spaces where people can congregate and mingle without distractions like gambling or drinking. Promote a society where locks are not needed.

agreed

rob i like your ideas and your words.

lets go with that

Ron tats an awesoe story.

why do we care about security anyway ?

In a community with no money and fewer commodity possessions you don't really need security as much. Everyone is also more interconnected and so natural community security exists anyway.
I agree 100% with Rob here. Its all in the mind. Locks and fences are a last resort toa community that has failed to trust each other.

Simply, we still need to worry about the outside world. We plan to have visitors and tourists. Plus, it never hurts to plan for the possible economic collapse, which would be a very dangerous change if we didn't plan for it.