Atlas City Project

Summery from Zeitgeist forum

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Below is a common list of occupations. We are soon to publish a list of these that we need in Atlas City. I included ones that we don't need, just to be complete and not over look anything. Which do you see needing in Atlas City and add any you see missing as well:

Accountant
Actor
Athlete
Archaeologist
Architect
Artist
Astronomer
Astronaut
Blacksmith
Bus Driver
Carpenter
Chef
Chemist
Chiropractor
Coach
Cobbler
Computer Engineer
Dancer
Dentist
Designer
Disc Jockey
Doctor
Economist
Electrician
Farmer
Fire-Fighter
Florist
Hairdresser
Homemaker
Jeweler
Jockey
Journalist
Judge
Lawyer
Librarian
Life-Guard
Meteorologist
Model
Musician
Nurse
Pharmacist
Photographer
Physicist
Pilot
Plumber
Police Officer
Politician
Programmer
Psychologist
Reporter
Salesperson
Scientist
Secretary
Social worker
Statistician
Surveyor
Systems analyst
Teacher
Trainer
Travel Agent
Veterinarian
Writer
Zookeeper

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we could get rid of shoes then we wont need a cobbler lol

A lot of these are simply things people can do for fun like dancing, acting, sports, artists, DJ's

Others are things that wont exist but they carry usable traits for example we wont need judges but they have a good understanding of philosophy and that is a usable trait.

Jewelry is a waste of resources I dont know why we would need that. We should stop mining gold if it has no use beyond monetary gain. Diamonds are used in construction but theres no need to make something pretty out of them, that would be wasteful in terms of the time it took to get it out of the ground. We can manufacture diamonds now we should just stop mining them all together.

not sure why we would need models either. There's no monetary gain in our system so I can't imagine why a woman would subject herself to scrutiny like that.

Police Officer will carry an entirely new definition.

Don't need sales people either, we have no reason to coerce anyone into buying anything

The job of a secretary would be automated

Social Worker? How would we need them?

Zookeeper is questionable. I've been thinking about whether zoo's should be used or not. I mean we are basically enslaving an animal for our entertainment. Not sure it's ethical.

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Many of these "professions" can be combined into one field, and most will be positions held by everyone so there's no need to break it into too many groups (researchers, teachers, journalism).

Accounting, for instance, won't be accounting in the normal since. There will be a little monetary accounting as we have to deal with the outside world, but this could also combine keeping track of food and supplies, where they go, whom is using what, and all other general statistics that will be kept and examined for efficiency.

Doctors/nurses will not only take care of health concerns, but also keep track of stats on illness, age, deaths (and what caused them), and be directly involved in the process (or those in the process) of manufacturing medications. These are jobs usually held by as many as twenty separate occupations (not to mention their assistants). Adding teaching on top of that and you make a very useful and productive individual.

This is something that will require a great deal of time to sort out and classify. I think documenting everything will be very important so we can show the rest of the world what a success the city is. Won't it be great to have the lowest death, crime rates, and all other important statistics the lowest in the nation?

As far as social workers, what about those who deal with children in child services- when kids are abused or abandoned/orphaned? I know this is a concept that probably wont be a problem until after the city is established but still something to think about. Also dealings with the elderly who can no longer care for themselves.

As far as zoos go I don't see much need for them so no need for zookeeper but what about the wildlife in general and control of that.

I have removed everything I do not believe Atlas City will need in version 1.0:

Architect
Carpenter
Chef
Chemist
Chiropractor
Computer Engineer
Dentist
Designer
Doctor
Electrician
Farmer
Fire-Fighter
Librarian
Nurse
Plumber
Programmer
Psychologist
Scientist
Secretary
Statistician
Surveyor
Systems analyst
Teacher

Jobs related to computer science need to be combined, we will need to have one job that has programming, systems analyst and computer engineering. I have dealt with all of them as separate entities and none of them know anything about the other fields. If someone is going to program something that interacts with the hardware, they will need to know how the hardward works. They will also need to be experts in the field of system analyst so they will be able to research hardware and software issues and address them accordingly.

That's pretty limited. I see many more that will be needed for the initial city, or just because someone wants to do it. This list is far from conceivable at this time, however, and will go through several revisions I'm sure.

I hope we won't have too much of a need for foster care and geriatric care initially. The city will be small so there shouldn't be much need until later generations. Even then, there will undoubtedly be people in the city that are willing to take on orphaned children, that is if they aren't shipped off to other family members. I have little idea on the zoology aspect except for humane farming techniques.

Being a firefighter and an EMT... there are a lot of down time included in the occupation. Having a quick response for medical issues would be a must, but also having a doctor and/or nurse involved with the job would definitely be a positive thing. Most doctors and nurses I've worked with don't have much training in the way of pre-hospital medicine, so closing that gap would be beneficial for all involved. Faster, more advanced care before arriving at a hospital will prove to be advantageous for the populous.

Also, having a "combined" firefighting force, which is the case for a lot of modern fire departments, would have a crew at a station ready to deploy when the alarm goes off, along with well trained "volunteers" to respond from wherever they happen to be at. The only issue that might arise, is that *if* there is a large fire, determining the accountability of those responding to ensure that they do.

Just my two cents from my experience.

True. When I worked in the hospital is was outrageous how limited scope everyone's knowledge and skill sets were. Many medical fields will likely be combined, as well as many emergency response/security placements. This way whoever is on call is being used to their fullest potential (not sitting around for hours) which also frees up a great deal of other people to do other activities.

we should seriously consider holistic medicine practitioner.

I think there will always be people who cannot cope with some aspect of daily life and need temporary or long term help. Whether you call them social workers, counsellors, or advisers, these are the people who will give that help.