Continued from Transportation thread
Neytiri wrote:
Jinx wrote:
Well in Atlas you cannot "curb" anything. Everyone must be allowed to do as they please. Of course transition is a little different but in the end result no one should ever be told they can't have something, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone they should be allowed to have it within reasonable means.
Personal vehicles today are destructive and dangerous. We can out think this primitive means of transportation. We can create many vehicles that travel through air, use no fuel, are not physically controlled by the operator and only show up to their house when needed. Kind of like a taxi service that is totally operated by computers. A person tells their home computer "I need to get from point A to point B" and the computer tells the other computer over at the vehicle storage area to send the appropriate type of vehicle needed for such endeavor. The vehicle arrives and user and others climb in and they are delivered to their destination.
We don't want to go backwards in technology as in "everyone has to ride a bus." We want to apply creative technology and properly manage it. Money is hindering our forward progression as a species. Once it is gone we will be able to create this advanced technology that has been hidden from us quickly and easily.
Community will be found not by forcing everyone to ride a bus but by fostering the creativity and participation in community functions.
Wow, after reading this post I just realized how much I disagree with what you guys are trying to do here.
I have a few fundamental convictions that this planning project is completely going against. One of them is that I am extremely leery of making people so dependent on technology. I do believe in the spiritual advancement of humanity, however allowing technology to take over personal effort, I believe will not get us there. It's like taking spoiled little children and spoiling them even more and expecting it to fix the problem. Evolving our minds and bodies to this kind of a lifestyle just doesn't seem natural. The human body was meant for physical work and personal effort, for self-involvement and community involvement in the achievement of your basic needs - and through this the character develops naturally. This is what leads to self-esteem. When you remove people from that natural state, that leaves them really helpless and disconnected from reality. Today we live our lives by proxy, passively allowing corporations to fulfill our lives... but if we say goodbye to the corporation and introduce more technology, our lives will still be lived by proxy. There is nothing like doing things for yourself, in a small community. I can tell you this from personal experience, between living on a farm in a village and living as a nameless in a city of 300,000. Allow nature to be your guide. What we need to save the world is LOVE, not more technology.
So I think I'm going to respectfully step down from this forum, because I'm only going to get in your way.
Good luck to all of you!
What is it about getting our hands dirty that makes us as humans feel right about life?
I would say that it has to do with, doing good for our soul, creating a sense of accomplishment. Humans can find a sense of accomplishment in many ways.
We don't all go outside and garden nor do all of us get dirty. Some people don't even touch dirt for years at a time. So it's not touching dirt that makes us feel good or right. Some people get a great sense of accomplishment working behind a computer when they complete a project. Humans have many ways of living well and finding happiness in a very unhappy world. Many humans don't work at all and instead they travel the world visiting new places, how is it that they find happiness and they don't even work? The majority of people don't dream of working their ass off at a 9-5 job then coming home and passing out only to rinse and repeat.
It's all about doing what you love. Most people hate their job and if they had it their way they would throw it away in a second to pursue whatever it is that they dream of doing.
In Atlas we will get rid of the mundane jobs that consume our lives, unless of course you want to blow your life away doing monotonous back breaking labor. The only way to get rid of these jobs is to automate them which requires advancement in technology. If you dream of a city where you work like a slave all day everyday and dance like everyone in the Ants movie, then Atlas IS NOT for you =)
