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Atlas will be efficient to the point that our footprint on the land we use will be so minute that if we move we can easily return the land to the way it was when we got there.
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BLM Land 4 months ago #5501

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Recently reinvigorated by the aspect of purchasing land, I have been emailing the local Business of Land Management departments to see what types of land offerings they have for Non Profits and organizations that serve the community. Several of these aspects seem right in line with the Atlas Research Center.

It states:
Special Pricing
"Under special pricing schedules, purchases may be made for #10 an acre, with a minimum price per transfer of $50, or land may be leased for $2 per acre per year with a minimum annual rental of $25. Special pricing applies to land which will be government-controlled, used for government purposes, and serve the general public. Examples include parks, educational facilities, public health-related facilities, fire and law enforcement structures, courthouses, and state, county and community administrative service facilities, social services, storage and maintenance, extension services, and public works."

I'm not sure exactly what it means by "government- controlled", but it does mention community services and medical services, which we could apply for. It would be nice to lease the cheap land for the research center first, then purchase land for the city when funding is raised.

There is also Regular Pricing.
"The rental or purchase price of land for uses that do not qualify for special pricing will be one-half of fair market value...Uses subject to regular pricing generally are those that are publicly supported and operated, but not essential or customary to government administration and services. They include cemeteries, museums, community centers, tourist information facilities, and fairgrounds."

Though I see no problem with applying for the first, just in case we can get it, we will likely only be able to try for the Regular Pricing (still 50% discount). If it is not open to the public it is only a 10% discount, but we plan to be open to the public. As a non profit, we can apply for 640 acres PER YEAR for recreational purposes, plus an extra 640 acres per year for public purposes.
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Re: BLM Land 4 months ago #5503

Main thing is we want to own, not rent. Do not want to be thrown out later if they sell land or just do not want us there anymore.

Re: BLM Land 4 months ago #5504

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The Research Center will not matter as much as it is just a stepping stone and fundraising aspect to getting the city built. The city will likely need to be much farther away from most current metropolitan areas, I would think. Unless it is close to a city that is open minded to the venture and has supplies that would benefit the initial creation of the city.

Here's one of many options:
-We qualify for Special Purchase and purchase between 5-20 acres of land for $10 per acre.
-We gain support for actually having land to use, and use the increase in attention to help generate revenue for Atlas Research Center (maybe leak information to local news crews). This also helps us in grant writing as we already will have land to work with.
-Build the research center: aquaponics systems, solar arrays, organic restaurant, eventually a free medical clinic (when we have licensed volunteers/workers). I am a licensed phlebotomist, but that's limited. I know a few nurses that may help. Mainly, we would need an MD.
-The revenue and support gained will further aspirations towards a city.
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Re: BLM Land 4 months ago #5509

Yes having the land would be a huge step towards getting money to build the research center. Will there be a level for residential living units? Might even get TVP and TZM members to help promote and fund the building. Are there blueprints for the research center? Also a model from a 3d printer would be nice to motivate people.

Put me down for a $100 donation towards the building phase.

Re: BLM Land 4 months ago #5511

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That's very generous of you . Since the Research Center was only first brought up a few months ago I don't believe anyone has made much on the schematics aspect of it. Since I'm no good at graphic design programs the best I could do is draw out (and remember I draw like a 5 year old) a concept that I have in my head.

I picture this as a smaller center. Possibly between 10-20,000 square foot building for residential (limited, maybe 6-12 units), restaurant, storage (physical, electrical, water), and green house. We may also have external agriculture that would not require the same construction expenses. The medical facility would be better off as a separate unit (probably no more than 2,500 sq/ft), giving anywhere from 12-18 patient rooms depending on space requirements for medical storage and specialty rooms (xray, for instance). However, due to expenses of equipment we would start very small and be limited in actual medical services.

This is just how I picture it at this point. I encourage other ideas and advice from all members so we may get a more solid foundation for this idea down.
"A Dream you dream Alone, is a Dream you dream Alone; But a Dream you dream Together becomes Reality." Raul Seixas

Re: BLM Land 4 months ago #5513

Chase good ideas.

Also Jacque said in a video last year if anyone had the land to build a research center he would provide the plans for free.

Re: BLM Land 4 months ago #5515

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We should buy, leasing property gives 'government' too easy of a way to thwart us as we are getting momentum.

The land can be small for the research Center, 20 to 100 acres would be good.

I am all up for applying!!

Re: BLM Land 4 months ago #5519

If you buy and build in a town with a small population, say under 600 people, and the real estate in town is affordable, then the money i am saving for the BUILD A HYBRID RBE COMMUNITY NOW can be used for the building of the research center. Currently just under $600, i am saving $2 a day towards this so if you buy in this type town whatever i have saved at the time will be donated. Maybe the others would help also, our grand total is around $1,200.

Re: BLM Land 3 months, 3 weeks ago #5526

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I still think leasing for the Research Center wouldn't be detrimental because by the time we gain momentum the money will be going to the city that can be on bought land. Either way, I'll try to get more information on in.

I know in the past we have asked The Venus Project to join us on the Research Center, or at least verbally support the idea, and they have denied time and time again. I highly doubt they will share plans even if they have any. Not to sound too negative, but I just haven't seen anything but mild contempt from TVP.
"A Dream you dream Alone, is a Dream you dream Alone; But a Dream you dream Together becomes Reality." Raul Seixas

Re: BLM Land 2 months, 3 weeks ago #5564

Update on BUILD A HYBRID RBE COMMUNITY NOW as mentioned above:

Currently $2,021 saved

Re: BLM Land 2 months, 2 weeks ago #5567

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Really? I didn't see much of that going on when I was watching it more closely. Great start!
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Re: BLM Land 2 months, 2 weeks ago #5568

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