Atlas City Project

Jennifer Le, the Healthcare Committee Organizer, is working on the following and could use your input, ideas and opinion, reply to this an be part of this committee online:

1. What medical resources does Atlas City require, at start up (minimum)?

2. What dental services does Atlas City require, at start up (minimum)?

3. What pharmacy services does Atlas City require, at start up (minimum)?

4. What insurance will be required to supplement what we cannot provide at start up?

5. What staffing will be required for this recommended level of care?

6. What facilities, structures, etc. will be required to provide this recommended level of care?

7. What medical and dental equipment will be required to provide this recommended level of care?

8. What are the management policies for:


• Policy on Wellness
• Policy on Obesity
• Policy on Drug Abuse
• Policy on Smoking
• Policy on Poor Nutrition
• Policy on Exercise

I'd like to see what she comes up with before I put in my two cents.

It is possibly a growing belief that modern medical cures may be worse than the disease, some (many) are ineffective, all are expensive.

I would like to see a more holistic approach to medical care be considered, prevention should be a priority, and more all alternative therapy practitioners be invited in, the effectiveness of their treatments be monitored and considered for recognition as viable alternatives to toxic drug treatments which is what we currently employ.

All (or most) drugs began as natural remedies and they were then refined and dosages increased for faster results, possibly causing problems later on, returning to a more natural healthcare policy might be good for peoples health and be easier to provide than manufacturing drugs which are protected by patents.

For your specific questions, that requires medical knowledge, so invite your practitioners in and ask them what they need.

Do American doctors and nurses want to work for a free health service?, is it going to be free?

First, I agree. Not enough medical study is done on holistic types of medicine. I'm just beginning to learn about traditional Chinese medicine and it would definitely be shunned by any modern American doctor. However, there are some things that are very useful, or at the very least equal alternatives to medicines we currently use.

Second, as for the doctors and nurses there are plenty that have retired or been laid off that would be glad to work for free since they will be living for free. Why not do something you like and not worry about the over worked hours and massive layoffs that are common in the medical industry today? When I finish my masters I plan to go back and finish my bio degree. If I ever get to PA (physician assistant) then I would work for free if I lived for free. PA know as much as MD and usually are the ones doing the work anyway.

I have noticed at least in the UK, there is a big shortage of dentists.

My hope is such people would want to live in such a community, but my big concern is that the only way to get such people, will be to pay them rather a lot..

(As such, a community that has a large economic surplus appears the only workable solution, if one cannot attract such people any other way.)

Sadly, my experience so far has been that money rather does motivate people.

Medical tourism is going to be a real and ongoing problem in Atlas city as people from all over america and possibly other countries as well, travel to Atlas city to get free treatment.

A small donation from these patients might help with construction costs, if you just ban outsiders from receiving free medical treatment, they will join the community, get the treatment and leave, so that will achieve nothing.

> Medical tourism is going to be a real and ongoing problem

Indeed, and I'm not sure what can be done about it, the following article covers the subject quite well I thought:

www.imtj.com/articles/2009/ripple-effect-30020/

I suppose one solution is not to make it free!

If you are located in a country that provides free medical care in the first place, that could be a working solution. (UK for example.)

Perhaps people might only be entitled to medical care after they have lived in the community for 6 months, but even then, you are perhaps just delaying the situation. (Eg. people might move there who have a family history of medical needs on the basis that these future needs will be met.)

Medical care tends to be an ever increasing hole to pour money down, so I think one would need to be careful just how much one budgets, and how one allows access to it. (Otherwise, as the article mentions, a lot of local people are going to be pissed when someone comes in and takes unfair advantage of the system by que jumping over them.)

I don't think that's a problem at all. Others have asked me about that. I say, especially since the city will have borders and likely be far from other large cities, we won't get a lot of tourism for small issues. And larger ones, we might as well help them out as long as residents get first grabs and it is scheduled out with medical staff. It wouldn't make since to have medical staff sitting around most of the week doing nothing when they can help outsiders that are struggling.

Hey everyone, I haven't been working on this for a while due to the amount of workload that I have to do while in nursing school. As we all know that medical treatments and drugs are very expensive that we cannot afford them. I do agree that almost all pharmaceutical drugs are very toxic to our bodies. The most I can focus on is preventing diseases. Having a healthier lifestyle such as eating organic foods and superfoods, exercise at least 30 min a day, exposure to sunlight for at least 20 min a day, avoiding personal care products that contained toxic chemical ingredients, drinking 8-10 eight oz glass of water per day, detoxifying your body, etc. will lower your chance of having a disease.

What I have come up with for staffing are Physicians (any specialty), RNs, LPNs, CNA's, Lab Technicians, Physical Therapists, Occupational Therapists, Respiratory Therapists, Dieticians, and Paramedics. I'm probably sure there are more than this list that I have.

As for smoking, I certainly believe that no smoking is allowed since smoking causes lung cancers and COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease). We all need to breathe fresh and clean air. Not only that, secondhand smoke is also dangerous too.

Also how many beds do we want to start out with for our hospital?

Kirana, good to see you are still here. im glad to see people are tackling the front of healthcare because it will be a big topic in the city.

I do not know how many beds our hospital should have, but the only thing i do know is that it should be bed/population ratio. I wonder what ratios city hospitals have?

In 2007/8 the British NHS had 198 beds per 100,000 people.

Atlas city residents may be healthier due to better diet and less stress, but may be at higher risk of injury from recreational "misadventure".

Whereas some cities boast about the number of billionaires they have, Atlas city could boast the highest number of Darwin award recipients.