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Center spire design ideas 1 year, 10 months ago #3471

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It's probably way too extravegant, but i always imagined the center spire looking something like the thin, spiral shape of this picture.

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Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3479

haha that looks really cool!

i would love to have something like that, i just wonder how much it would cost...

Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3481

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I know. The best we could do is see designs that are similar to this, see how much they cost, then add a bit for the tech advancements we will add to it. It's going to be very difficult for us to price our building's cost. We really need to find ways to deliver cost numbers for investors now that some have been coming out of the woodworks.
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Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3484

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thats one curvy spire building, that would be a challenge to model.

Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3491

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Yes it would. This is a tricky proposition. We want the center spire to be the main point and center of attraction, without being half the budget. This is the only building that will be a little more interested in aesthetics and not strictly efficiency (but that is still the main concern). I like this curvy design, but if you have any interesting ones to share as well...
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Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3493

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well, I think tall towers are neat, but i am a fan of what i once heard called "the architectural testicles"

Which is a very low brow and lewd way of comparing a tower to a penis.

If the tower isn't surrounded by and linked to wings which are somewhat smaller, it somehow seems to me to be pretentious and anti functional, the
aesthetic of towers to me is that they should be a part of a building, not the building in and of itself.

For ease of drawing, It would be a lot easier to go for something a little more square.

I am also a fan of porch space, and a large open space below the spire.

Lastly, this isn't technically a "Spire."



A '''spire''' is a tapering conical or pyramidal structure on the top of a building, particularly a church [tower]]. Etymologically, the word is derived from the [Anglo-Saxon language|Anglo-Saxon]] "spear".{{Citation needed|date=December 2009}}

In [England]], "spire" immediately brings to mind [Salisbury Cathedral]]. Its 403-foot (123-m) spire, built between 1320 and 1380, is the tallest of the period anywhere in the world, and in its way is as remarkable as the [Coliseum]] in [Rome]] or the [parthenon]] in [Athens]]. A similar but slightly smaller spire was built at [Leighton Buzzard]] in [Bedfordshire]], [England]], which indicates the popularity of the spire spreading across the country during this period. We will never know the true popularity of the medieval spire, as many more collapsed within a few years of building than ever survived to be recorded. In the United Kingdom spires generally tend to be reserved for ecclesiastical building, with the exception to this rule being the spire at [Burghley House]], built for [Elizabeth I of England|Elizabeth I]]'s [Lord Chancellor]] in 1585.
Symbolically, spires have two functions. The first is to proclaim a martial power. A spire, with its reminiscence of the spear point, gives the impression of strength. The second is to reach up toward the skies.{{Citation needed|date=December 2009}} The celestial and hopeful gesture of the spire is one reason for its association with religious buildings. {{Citation needed|date=December 2009}}A spire on a church or [cathedral]] is not just a symbol of piety, but is often seen as a symbol of the wealth and prestige of the order, or [patron]] who commissioned the building.

As an architectural ornament, spires are most consistently found on [Christian]] churches, where they replace the [Steeple (architecture)|steeple]]. Although any denomination may choose to use a spire instead of a steeple, the lack of a cross on the structure is more common in [Roman Catholic]] and other pre-[Protestant Reformation|Reformation]] churches. The battlements of [cathedral]]s featured multiple spires in the [Gothic architecture|Gothic]] style (in imitation of the secular military fortress).


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Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3507

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Wings can still be applied. Think of the Stratosphere Tower in Las Vegas
(only build wings on all sides and not just one).
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Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3512

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skyscraperpage.com/


www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1C1SKPC_enUS336US364&biw=1095&bih=727&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=%22Stratosphere+Tower%22+home+page&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Thats definitely more of a spire and a a lot more like the kind of building
I would like to design - also a lot easier to design than the other example.

its hard to find any actual diagrams of it, they all seem to be tourist photos.

The building connected to it below is also not too shabby, and illustrates the idea i'm getting at pretty well.

Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3515

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I like 3-4 of the designs on here.

skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=23

It won't need to be extremely tall. I'd say for our limited population around 40 floors will be sufficient. Guess we should see what the main purposes will be for this tower and how many floors it will require. The main issue with using it as a hospital would be time. Elevators are a hospitals worst enemy. It may be a better idea to use the spire for education and one of the other wings for a hospital? We need to make up some pros and cons to a few different placements.
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Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3516

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to be honest, i think that this is something that has run around in other groups before, including the people who build these real ones.

The answer is that if you are going to climb up that tall you want to do something with the view.

Hospitals and schools both are bad choices, because hospitals need to be
low altitude for the air, and school needs people to focus on study, not the view.

For this reason, i think the obvious solutions are the ones most employed by
those who have such tall buildings. Which is restaurant, and recreational
center.

Your first example has a ride around the perimeter, literally like a piece
of giant playground equipment or carnival ride.

I don't favor that idea, but the point is that you want a public area.


Hospitals and schools are two fine ideas for the structures at the base,
as discussed elsewhere.

Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 9 months ago #3518

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No one said anything about rides on the structure.

I agree that a hospital would be a bad idea because only the first few floors could really be used for this. But that's not useful since it enables the rest of the building to suffer from the spread of infection.

I do disagree about the school, however. We do want people to enjoy classes, not feel locked up. All of my schools from grade school to the several colleges I've attended have all felt stuffy and sensually dulling. Our university is free, non-mandatory, go when you like style. It should be warmer feeling.

The base should definitely be used for recreation, meetings, group events, lectures, concerts, etc.
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Re:Center spire design ideas 1 year, 6 months ago #4224

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The central building must be the tallest building (>50 storeys), that the city will ever have, so that it could in future be the central support of a dome covering the whole city, before the dome is in place, the walls of the building should channel the wind up to wind turbines mounted on the roof to generate electricity, also the roofs of all buildings must act as rainwater collectors, the water falls down the pipe to basement level where it hits a waterwheel generating more electricity, before continuing on to the water purification plant.

It might be nice if the building looked like a Cray supercomputer.

PS. I know that complete domes don't need support, but they do during construction, also a supported dome could have "holes" in it to allow rainwater in.
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