Atlas City Project

I am just making this post for everyone to take a second to evaluate the current goals and ideals for the beginning of the city.

There are two ways to go about this:

1. the current popular way on this forum, namely designing a whole for the city and plan on building this whole at once.

or

2. design the city in stages which can be rolled out in a much quicker manner, after land is acquired of course.

remember, that if we design stages, not only will it be more realistic for a city layout, but it will also allow for us to plan for expansion much more easily, as each stage would be an extension of the previous stage. This will require us to determine what the first building(s) will be.

Also, I would recommend these buildings be designed to scale of the full city, so they may be relatively large. The reason for this is that it would be more efficient than comming back later and building up, or demolishing and building again.

Anyways, this is just some food for thought.

" think the land out in the mid west still can be bought for like 40 cents an acre.
(you know.. where theres no water or roads...)
no better place to test a closed circuit ecosystem with zero water waste. lol" prometheuspan from rbef. man he knows he can write. even states how easy it is to live in the woods. us southern boys know this.

Eggsworth wrote:


I concur with the stages idea. Once we have the land, we should seize the opportunity to start building as soon as we can. Stage designs at first and then build on as time progresses. Great post Eggsworth.

I believe the first stage of the city we would need to build would be the central core: The Hospital, The University, aquaponics facilities, living centers, clothing center, eatery and transportation center. I believe the most efficient form of energy that is cost effective would be the Bedini 10 coil system. Solar energy could also be implemented, but I feel if we are able to thoroughly test the Bedini coil to it's maximum efficiency, we would have a 24/7 supply of unlimited energy. Bedini coils could be implemented in every structure, or have multiple coils for larger buildings, such as the hospital and the university.

Obviously our living centers would need to be constructed firstly for our own shelter needs, as well as aquaponics implementation.

I'm just throwing out ideas off the top of my head. Anyone can feel free to add onto these ideas. But yes, stage development would be a great idea.

Implementing the stages in sections is fine, but we need a general complete layout done first. It would be horrible to build something in the way of another building because we started building without adequate planning.

Stages will allow us to get started quicker and for revenues to help build the remaining portions of the city. A plan that does that is critical. Great post! Lets write it into the manual!

chase - yes from reading your input, i would say we need to have a hybrid.

we need to realize a near finished milestone on paper, and then design stages to reach that design, otherwise we will be building towards no goal.

Good thing we have some very general concepts from Brad for city outline. We could start naming off the buildings, quantities of them, and their dimensions. This will allow for the basic ENTIRE city outline. To do this we need to make a few assumptions. First assumption will be the number of residents. I think the latest agreement, for now, is 5000. From this number let us derive the number of houseing units (based on one or multiple of the designs shared so far) and how much space/what arrangement will be needed. Second, unless someone disagrees, let's assume it will be on a plot of 640 acres. This is simply due to the research done so far it seems this is most likely. We may get lucky and get two parcels touching, but let's assume 640 acres.

From this point we have the basis for our outline and can then intelligently implement a sectional construction project.
1.I suggest agriculture and a small section of residential first to get people living there sooner rather then later. Of course, these will be added to as we grow, but only in the space already allotted for this type of construction. Most of the energy for these buildings will be produced by the design of the building itself (see the single living quarters sections).
2. By now we should at least have begun the university/hospital since it's the main point of the city. This, at least when running, will require whichever energy plant design we decide on. It will also take the longest to finish and require the most people to run so it won't be completed until more of the city is finished, but it should be started at this point.
3. Continue expanding housing, public areas, inner-city entertainment.
4. I'll let someone else take over for now since my arm injury is starting to bother me.

I have a construction background and building one building without knowing where or what the next building is on this concept would be project suicide. I know everyone gets ancy when there are long waiting times but thats just the nature of the beast.
We have to get our corporation done first then apply for grants to secure funding.

In the mean time what should be getting done is attracting architects and engineers.

But wouldn't a hybrid plan work? It's still planned out as it would be, just building parts at a time due to whatever funding is available at the time. Doing everything at once could take years to get funding, then years to build. A well planned mixture seems feasible.

i will again repeat what i think is absolute and obvious.

first we will arrive on site and build a seed village, then a theme park, and then a city.

In that order, with two or ten year intervals for growth stages.

the big city is sexy to dream of but impossible to build as a start up.

pragmatism requires us to take it in steps and grow one stage at a time.

In my opinion a theme park might paint us in a bad light as seeming "not very serious." Also the word "impossible" could be used in a different area but when it comes to talking about the future of Atlas I don't think "impossible" applies here. There are many examples in history where ideas that go viral don't have much of a pragmatic path that they follow, like Facebook or Pokemon, etc. I think this idea will hit viral status as already shown in the Zeitgeist Movement.

One stage at a time indeed!