Atlas City Project

TZM now looking to work with other organizations, maybe now they will be interested in Atlas

I wonder. Do they still not like the idea of building? If that has changed then now would be the perfect time to renegotiate working together.

How did you get this information Michael?

It's all over the TZM site. Update Jacque and Roxanne said in their last interview they would be willing to sit down with Peter to see if they can still work together.

Interesting. I have been reading on TZM forums. I am sure they will come to terms.

From what I've heard TZM is still an all-or-nothing proposition, which means we can't work together. Still not sure how they figure something that effects society as largely as RBE concepts do will ever be an all or nothing. We'd have a better chance with TVP conceptually, but they are too concerned with their movie. Balls in our park guys.

Well we have never relied on either TZM or TVP so we are still free to continue as we were.

My fingers are crossed for our grants to be accepted!!! XXXXX

Have you considered working with TVP instead?

LP,
Jure

We have grants still in the works. I would reapproach TVP before TZM. We have much more in common with Jacque Fresco than Peter Joseph. Jacque wants a smooth tranistion out of the menetary system, Peter is taking a radical and dangerous approach.

@Dustwolf - We have tried to build a relationship with TVP in the past and it didn't work like we hoped it would. But it has been awhile since our last discussion with Roxanne. Maybe time has changed her opinion of Atlas. I don't think it would hurt for us to reach out to TVP again and see if they are willing to set aside our considerably minor differences and work together.

I'm new here, I'm just wondering what the minor differences were? Is there a forum that discusses the differences between Atlas, TVP and TZM? if not the maybe there should be? it can be listed under community relations.

At the core it would seem like all three grups should be working together. I understand that there would be differences in opinion about when things should be implemented or when the next step should be taken, but ultimatly, one cannot talk about change unless you are prepared to make it happen.

We have tried to work together in the past. In fact, we were the NV chapter of the Zeitgeist Movement until they forced us to break off. There is no point in discussing the differences any further then they already have been, in my opinion. We are all working for RBE, but Atlas wants to build ASAP and that is the only true difference. Since building now vs later is a matter of subjective opinion there is not a whole lot else that can be done about it.

On a lighter note, we do have a meeting with TVP's Roxanne this Friday. This is the first conference, or real contact, we have had with TVP and TZM in a long time. We should all be cautiously optimistic that something can be done about the timeline of RBE.