Atlas City Project

i just want to know is the construction for atlas city started yet? and where is the proposed location?

Atlas City is not in construction yet, nor will it be for a while, until we get the necessary grants to fund it. There is no proposed location.

We will not commence construction until a sufficient manual (IE: outline, design document, what will you: which currently is our wiki) is developed.

We do not have any proposed locations yet, however, speculative locations include Nevada, and the United States.

there is already proposed location and some volunteer working on the site,

openfarmtech.org/weblog/



so i wondered is it possible Atlas merge with them? seems very similar goal thou.. and btw how am i able to volunteer in Atlas group? i mean volunteer in REAL LIFE, as long as get this project take off. im unemployed now

YES! You can volunteer here! In fact here is the recent email sent out to our volunteers.

Quote from email:

By the way where do you live? If you live in Southern NV you can come to our meetings, the location is posted on the front page of our site www.atlasinitiativegroup.org

I take it you wish to help in ways that don't necessarily include the online forum or wiki. In that case, it's very important to get the word out, find new members, and work on getting funds. Many funds will be difficult to get until we work more on our conceptualization committee visuals. We are also willing to become acquainted with any group that shares humanitarian views

i will make this as short as possible and so everyone can read it and get to my point.


hello Jinx and ChaseD702, i just read through whats the committee organization about. to answer your question, i doubt if i had any specific skills..

my academic qualification is certificate in comp studies, cert III in Information Tech, and Diploma in E-Business. most likely that barely can contribute anything useful for Atlas city.

however from my personal side, i have some research and readings done how to have renewable energy,water and those human life support necessity etc etc.. that always have been my interest. then i can be information organizer for this Atlas community, or research/reading in many places, around the net and see which one is the best technical solutions Atlas city should consider venture into, aside from that little effort to spread awareness in social networking website should be fine, thats all i can do for answering your questions.


now the problems here is i would very much not to do those because i think Atlas proposition so far is a bit difficult to realize, therefore i suggest the following :


we should starts from a simple house first. that means i assume some of you here would find a piece of small land, with easy access to outside world city and we will build this modern eco-house for a start. actually i found they have (openfarmtech) the best and most realistic approach how to start up RBE so far. with workshop and self made engineering tools how to be able to expand and recreate infrastructure.


i am from Malaysia, but i think this doesnt matter because im single, no debt, no jobs no nothing at all, and i would consider moving here and volunteer full time to get this started. (we'll talk more about this later)


so why i suggest starting from a simple land and build simple house? because we should at least have a full small scale operational model to show the outside world before able to turn it into village and slowly into city. in the house, the very first important thing is we focus only on renewable water system and farming first.


most important for human survival is water and food, electricity we can temporary on the grid first, but will remove it once we have our own power station/generator or something else.


so the house assume have bathroom, kitchen sink, all these need water and we somehow design it to completely recycle the water so able to reuse again. then with the farming, we should try to achieve 100% independence (although its impossible i think) self grown and for consumption, the extra can be use to sell it on open market and gets more funding for next project.



assuming, the house is build, we will use this house as permanent research base, for discussion, meeting, execution plan or the best is actually let people know about our house, people can live here for free water/food (after done some interview)and as long as they are ready to volunteer into this project. this is how we can get real human labour/power into the Atlas. with internet access in the 'house', volunteers can spread their awareness on the net from house as well.


my point of view is, this is more of like high-tech commune and trying to evolve into city because we are trying the best not to related with capitalism, although it is not possible, at least if we have some common ground, the project will get going.


assume, we have the permanent base (house) my idea is we can do a presentation in various university, let the students know what is our objective, point of view in life, and even advertise on media to let unemployed people to volunteer and in order to return their effort gets to stay here and have free water/food/accomodation. we should be growing fast at this stage.


so anyone wants to offer the land with easy access to city, please let me know i'll be the first one to volunteer working on it. thank you for reading.

It looks to me like you have more than enough, all thats really needed is a level head and a drive to help others.

We have considered starting small, and we will, but not that small. We want to build the most important structures first, then grow around it. Funding on such ambition is tough but I have no doubt that we will find it. Our funding strategies are also made to fit with our goals.

Eco houses are likely going to be built in Atlas or something like an "Eco Apartment building"

I like the eco building idea most of all (as you can see from my single home living ideas), and even would like the larger buildings to incorporate this. Many people think we need entire power stations and extended green tech power generators. As these things will make life easier, most are still inefficient and expensive. Creating everything as efficient and sustainable from the beginning is the best overall way to go.

To start that small would not benefit anyway at this point, and there are dozens of such off-the-grid communities all over America so we wouldn't be proving anything new. We need to start with an entire city, but in what stages is still of some debate.

Please feel free to add to the research sections of the forums. I feel this is a very under-appreciated section here and one of the most important to making the city as efficient as possible. I've extended nearly all of my collected knowledge on these subjects so far, and usually don't have a lot of time for new research. Also, different countries often have different technologies and companies that are readily available to them, but unknown to other areas. There are many sites (ted.com) that there is a wealth of knowledge to share. If you feel like doing this, please do. We try to combine the most efficient combination of new tech so best suite our needs without bankrupting the entire operation.

world's cheapest city is Asuncion, maybe you can consider starting from there due to low cost.

www.independent.co.uk/travel/americas/asuncin-the-capital-of-paraguay-is-the-worlds-least-expensive-city-396083.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asunci%C3%B3n


and if atlas DOES NOT have proposed site, it would be very difficult to promote without actual picture of land, infrastructure, etc etc.. and donation would be difficult to get as well.


for my personal view, you can have a look here : zeitgeistbevegelsen.no/forum/venus-prosjektet/english-only-need-help-posting/

intially i believe i started with a radical proposition, but overtime nothing much can be done without money.

well, in response to chase's post, i agree, for the beginning of the city, green building will definitely be the way to go. I am thinking that farther down the line we can build some skyrise stuff to accommodate different types of living arrangements and variety.