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Asiom City Seed village 1 year, 9 months ago #3673

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Asiom City Seed Village shall consist of 5 Core buildings to start.

These will be;

1. A 100 person residential settlement.

2. A 100 person Aquaponics Tower.

3. A 100 person Energy Tower including and incorporating both solar and
windmill array.

4. A 100 Person Social Gathering room, including kitchen area, restrooms,
locker rooms, a dining hall, and a large assortment of office spaces.

5. (seed size) The Hospital and School and Civics Center Central building

From this settlement, construction will continue forth to include;

6. Construction unit specific tool sheds;

7. Grounds work and gardening tool sheds;

8. 3 Meeting Agoras

9. A "mall"

10. The Geothermal Power Station.

11. 101 Hot tub swimming pools

12. 101 steam room environments

13...next phase...

Asiom City Macro Village 1 year, 9 months ago #3674

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The Macro Village shall consist of a large circular array of assorted buildings built around a more central building batch. Macro village shall
consist entirely of buildings above the height of ten stories, with 15, 20, 25, 30, and 40 stories respectively forming a sort of land scape of different
architectural heights.

The macro village, tho composed of orbitals orbiting the seed village at a farther distance away will be reversing the 20th century trend. The small buildings will be in the center. The seed villages 3 story and 5 story tall
buildings will be featured in the center of a new larger exploration.

Macro Villages 10- 40 stories tall will be an exploration of new and three dimensional topographies, and will attempt to build hyperfunctional buildings
as the need arises for such buildings.

In an attempt to anticipate such needs or to fill them differently by design,
the idea of macro village is that each of these orbitals is a unique new building which we are showing to the world as an example of one they might want built locally.

Every single building is an example to sell.

Each one is different and each one is guaged to meet the needs of real people at a fixed population or traffic size.

On the other hand each one is an example of spending what it takes to make the best that money should buy.
lol

or at least a stab at that primitively. lol

Asiom City Theme Park 1 year, 9 months ago #3675

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Whereas the village only tries to consider new buildings as examples to sell,
the theme park invests in buildings for its own growth purposes and builds now specifically for the purpose of its own growth and making money.

This means that it becomes an ultra modern grow farm, both permaculture and aquaponics, with a very large residential base and all of those people employed in construction and agriculture or tourism.

Tourism, then, becomes based on making a name for yourself as place of recreation thats different and the easy way to do this is to optimize the cheap benefits of hot water and steam from a geothermal power station into a hot water theme park.

This also gives you the cities hot water and plumbing based on geothermal power directly instead of burning fossil fuels to heat water.

And it allows you the chance to change a biodomes ecosystem by pumping it always full of steam.

Watering those plants any way you like them, or cooling the area with a nice chilled mist.

Out in the middle of the desert, where water is scarce, a big good supply of it in a demonstration of zero water waste for the whole system would show the world how it should be done.

The idea of zero water waste is to always recollect the water by spilling it on soil which has a hidden or buried basin beneath it. No water is ever lost in a closed loop system, it can only evaporate instead of trickling past trees completely, what the tree does not take is not lost into the earth but reclaimed.


These principles combined mean that optimal growth will obviously be via all of the technological advantages steam on tap provides.

Steam power can in theory even directly run everything. Not that I advise that, but the point could be made...

Asiom City City 1 year, 9 months ago #3676

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The final stage of Asiom City will implement a larger fractal replication of the macro village around it, but this time with versions of those buildings
which are 300 meters to 1000 meters tall.

These buildings will once again reverse the 24th century trend as they surround a set of much smaller buildings.

This final stage will take the population of the City from being a "small" city to being a real contender on the stage of largest cities, if not the largest city in the world.

Asiom City County 1 year, 9 months ago #3677

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Asiom City will attempt to buy up all of the land around it, or encourage dynamic new complimentary development, and will expand its boundaries out beyond the City into an area somewhat more like a city state or in this case more like the size of a "County."

The city will then look for sites to go into replication at with new seeds,

between 40 and 200 new potential seed sites as close as possible.

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prometheuspan wrote:
[quote]Asiom City Seed Village shall consist of 5 Core buildings to start.

These will be;

1. A 100 person residential settlement.



these will be constructed out of earth ships which at current designs generates 12 units per earth ship at 4 units per level and 3 levels.

This will in turn seem to indicate for radial symmetry a 10 unit multiplier or 10 such units for the seed village would be required.

Its clearly advisable to site but not build until needed additional units,
probably approximately 100 total units before moving to a larger and taller
Model.



2. A 100 person Aquaponics Tower.


This can be a single tower, or one structure. 5 Stories is probably ideal to fit in with the Earth ships. It might be noted that the earthship is ideal to do Aquaponics in and is thus in some senses perfect as an aquaponics tower if one minuses the residential units.

To fit the earth ship theme, then, a 4 story version of the earth ship makes a fine first Aquaponics tower.



3. A 100 person Energy Tower including and incorporating both solar and
windmill array.


This should be an adapted version of an earth ship with super tall posts used to create a super skinny tower, in order to stretch out a windmill and
a solar panel array.




4. A 100 Person Social Gathering room, including kitchen area, restrooms,
locker rooms, a dining hall, and a large assortment of office spaces.


This will be a 5 story tall domed building using an array of domes.



5. (seed size) The Hospital and School and Civics Center Central building


This will be a tall central building with a spire and several wings, the spire should be 10 stories tall, with the wings being 3 stories and connecting to 5 story towers.





From this settlement, construction will continue forth to include;

6. Construction unit specific tool sheds;

7. Grounds work and gardening tool sheds;


These should probably look like gazebos or be hidden in hill sides,
so that they fit into a walk through as a sort of detail.

A significant fraction of them should lead to underground bunkers, which
can be used for storage and in order to link to the more private sub terrainian level.



8. 3 Meeting Agoras


In order to have events its best to have nice meeting halls. These Agoras
will feature 1000 person auditoriums, a stage, a back stage area, a beneath stage area, above stage staging, 12 Actors offices, a mens changing room, a womens changing room, A mens restroom, a womens restroom, and several large
tabled meeting rooms for up to 40 persons.



9. A "mall"


the best way to attract investors is to invite them in to do business.






10. The Geothermal Power Station.


And I do mean the most modern and well figured out geothermal power station ever designed, with a yield equal to several nuclear power stations, and capable of lighting up the whole state on its own.

In short, the seed village invests big time in a very large and very powerful batch of industrial equipment and uses it very wisely to make itself an energy provider- and thus always selling something back to the grid.



11. 101 Hot tub swimming pools


And used that geothermal heat to make the ultimate tourist attraction.

Re:Asiom City Macro Village 1 year, 9 months ago #3679

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So to move thoughtfully through a list of buildings.

Hotel,
Sports Complex,
Fitness Center,
Restaurant,
Office Building
Industrial Construction Site
Drill Construction site
Deep Swimming Pool
Cavern
Connecting Cave or Cave Hall
Hot Tub
Steam Room
Dance Club Bar
Mini Mall
Jail
Police Station
Bike Shed
Subway Tube
Subway Entrance
Subway Mall
Rapid Transit Air Tram Tower
Rapid Transit Air Tram Tram
Rapid Transit Air Tram Waiting Area

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At this stage the buildings may get up as tall as 300 meters , a little less than a third the scale of the City Size, and as tall as some of the worlds tallest towers.

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> 10. The Geothermal Power Station.

www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=247

> Brewington and his backers believe the eventual production model
> of their 10MW Power Tube can be installed for under $450,000 per
> megawatt,

www.powertubeinc.com

From my limited understanding 1MW = roughly enough electricity for between 500 and 1,000 people.

If selling to the grid, you need to take into account also the huge cost of connection this can entail. (Not to mention waiting list as I understand it could be years depending upon the area.)

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please try that again. those arnen't linked until you come up with a duration interval.

installation cost is a fixed amount at the start and payoff is long term long term.

Cost benefit thus increases over time.

Usually such figures are short term figures. Two or five years.

I'm thus lost.

From my limited understanding 1MW = roughly enough electricity for between 500 and 1,000 people.

sure, depends on their usage efficiency per capita, ...

and how long that is.
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also, this is a conversation for the geothermal power station thread?

I have been working on version 4. (earthship)It has all the walls in the right places and a slightly messy but mostly intact ramp well system.

I still need to put on porch rails.
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Re:Asiom City Seed village 1 year, 9 months ago #3704

we need to be careful about planning to "sell" power back to the grid.

in order to do such profitably, we may need to become an electric utility - which is difficult.

reason being that as far as residential in clark county (where las vegas is located) you do not get paid for returning money to the grid. it can turn your meter backwards and thats it.

what this means is that even if we are pumping half our power production off to the grid - depending on where we are located - we may not get paid. so that is definitely something to keep in mind.
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